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INCITS
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards

INCITS Secretariat, Information Technology Industry Council (ITI)
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Date: December 11, 2005
Reply to: Lynn Barra
Phone: (202) 626-5739


Draft Minutes 

INCITS Procedures Board Committee (PBC)
Meeting Number 6

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Monday
December 5, 2005



1. Administrative  
1.1 Call to Order

Mr. Zemrowski, Chairman, called the sixth meeting of the INCITS Procedures Board Committee (PBC) to order at 1:04 PM.
Ms. Lynn Barra of ITI acted as recording secretary.

1.2 Membership Report

The PBC voting membership is 7 organizations; therefore, quorum is defined as 4 voting members.

Organization
Representative
Present
Absent
Voting Members
ICCP
Ken Zemrowski
X

IEEE
Robert Pritchard

X
Hewlett-Packard Company
Scott Jameson X

Microsoft Corporation Don Stanwyck X

Sony Electronics Ed Barrett X

SUN Microsystems
Carman Mondello

X
US Department of Defense
Robert Gaskill

X
Ex-Officio
ITI (INCITS Sec.)
Pat Morris
Lynn Barra
Jennifer Garner
X
X
X


1.3 Approval of the Draft Agenda

The draft agenda was presented.  Mr. Barrett requested that default ballots be added to the agenda.  This issue was added under agenda item 5.2. 

Reference: in051001


1.4
Review of Action Items


See Attachment A (at the end of the minutes).


2. Chairman's Remarks

Mr. Zemrowski thanked everyone for participating on the teleconference and requested comments from members on ways to ensure that the PBC was operating in the most efficient manner.  The PBC primary area of work is issues related to the standards documents and action items assigned from the INCITS Executive Board.



3. Issues distributed via email in July 2005
 
3.1 RD-1 Participation in subgroups by non-members


Mr. Zemrowski noted that an Ad Hoc had been appointed by the SPB to address this issue (a05.173).  PBC will take action after the Ad Hoc has made a recommendation. 

Draft wording of a policy:

"Meetings of INCITS and its subgroups are open to all members and others having a direct and material interest. Any organization seeking to enjoy the opportunity to participate regularly and influence the progress of the program of work is expected to become a member in order to equitably share the obligations as well as the privileges of membership (recognizing that non-members to not have the opportunity to participate in formal ballots). If a subgroup identifies benefits to early distribution of draft documents prior to formal public review, the subgroup may establish a policy for distributing preliminary drafts to parties with a direct and material interest, as long as the Standards Development Board is notified of the distribution policy."

There was discussion that INCITS should have one harmonized policy and each TC should not have its own policy, that allowing non-members to participate diminishes the value of membership, and having a policy in which it is difficult to monitor compliance could be harmful.

3.2 RD-2 Clarification of two-thirds rule for voting


The proposed text for the two-thirds voting rule was reviewed by the PBC.

The two-thirds rule is defined as:
a) Approval by at least 2/3 of those voting YES or NO, and
b) Approval by a majority of the voting membership.  That is, the threshold is not affected by the number of members present at
    the meeting for a meeting vote.

Following discussion, the PBC approved the proposed two-thirds text by unanimous consent (Barrett / Zemrowski).

Action:   The PBC requests that the Secretariat issue a letter ballot to the Executive Board to approve the proposed two-thirds voting text.

3.3 RD-2 Delegates to international meetings


The PBC discussed revisions to the Clause 5.7.12.2 with a change in the preceding Clause as well, to read:

 

5.7.12.1 Selection of Delegates

U.S. delegates shall be representatives of voting members of appropriate U.S. TAGs as designated by the appropriate U.S. TAG, or be individual experts who are not voting members of the TAG and serve on U.S. delegations at the invitation of the TAG.

 

5.7.12.2 Participation

Designated U.S. delegates shall attend all caucuses called by the Head of Delegation, unless excused by the Head of Delegation, as well as all U.S. TAG meetings where U.S. positions and assignments are developed. Further, Designated U.S. delegates shall attend all international meeting sessions, unless excused by the Head of Delegation.

 

 Motion to request that the Secretariat issue a letter ballot was approved by unanimous consent (Barrett / Zemrowski)

Action:  PBC requests that the Secretariat issue a letter ballot to revise Sections 5.7.12.1 and 5.7.12.2 of the INCITS/RD-2.


3.4 TC M1 Internal Procedures for Review


Mr. Zemrowski reported that a review of the INICTS/M1 internal procedures was conducted.  No conflicts with the INCITS/RD-2 or ANSI rules were found.  The PBC findings will be presented to the INCITS Executive Board for approval at the January 2006 meeting.

Action:  PBC will report to the INCITS Executive Board that the INICTS/M1 internal procedures are in compliance with INCITS and ANSI procedures.

3.5 Input to US delegations to JTC 1 meetings


The PBC was requested to provide text for inclusion in the RD-2 and RD-3 to clarify the requirement for US TAG Chairs, IRs and Administrators to provide input to the US delegations to JTC 1 meetings (Action Item a05.040).  Mr. Zemrowski will provide the new text to the Secretariat.

Action:  Upon receipt of the text from Mr. Zemrowski, PBC requests that the Secretariat issue a letter ballot to the Executive Board to approve the new INCITS/RD-2 and INCITS/RD-3 text for US TAG Chairs, IRs and Administrators to provide input to the US delegations to JTC 1 meetings.

3.6 Rights and responsibilities of members


The PBC was requested to clairfy the rights and responsibilities of the various categories of membeship for the INCITS Executive Board and the subsidiary boards (Action Item a05.002).

The PBC discussed this action item and approved by unanimous consent that the current text in the INCITS/RD-2, Section 3.2.1.1 will be revised from "principal or alternate representatives of members" to "principal or alternate representatives of voting members" in the first and second paragraphs.

Action:  PBC requests that the Secretariat issue a letter ballot on the revised text for Section 3.2.1.1 of the INCITS/RD-2.



4. Action Items from the Leadership Retreat in Victoria, BC

4.1 Streamlined adoption of ISO/IEC standards
 

The PBC was requested to draft text for inclusion in the INCITS/RD-1 for Executive Board consideration proposing a policy that when a ballot is issued for adoption of the revision of an international standard that has been adopted, the ballot will contain text announcing that adoption of the revision will result in withdrawal of the original national adoption. 

The appropriate TC will be asked to provide the recommended US vote on the final standard and a recommendation on adoption at the same time.  The proposed process will detail the manner in which the simultaneous approvals will be achieved.  PBC agreed to draft text that two concurrent LBs will be issued, with the ballot to adopt the international standard contingent on approval of the international standard. Ms. Barra noted that some TCs have explicitly advised against adoption despite favoring approval of the international standard. Mr. Jameson pointed out that there are cases in which it is undesirable to withdraw the ANSI/INCITS standard because it is cited in Federal regulations or other Federal documents. Requests for input from TCs must be very detailed as to the implications of the various options.  The INCITS/RD-1 will need to be editorially updated to correct legacy document references.

Action: 
PBC to draft text for the INICTS procedures that two concurrent LBs be issued, with the ballot to adopt the international standard contingent on approval of the international standard.

4.2 Roadmap for updating the INCITS/RD-1 and INCITS/RD-2
 

The PBC was directed to develop a roadmap and timeline for updates to the INCITS/RD-1 and INCITS/RD-2 for consideration by the INCITS Executive Board.  Several comments were noted such as difficulty when searching the documents, multiple files, and lack of an index and internal hyperlinks.  This issue was discussed briefly at this meeting.


5. New Business  

5.1 Handling of reconsideration Ballots
 

This issue deals with the timing of addressing the results of a reconsideration ballot when it is likely that the NO vote will be accepted by other members.  Should we restrict the use of reconsideration to approval of American National Standards? Note that 5.2.2 and 5.2.7 use a 15-day reconsideration ballot, but 5.7.13.2 uses a ten-day reconsideration period. The Secretariat will prepare a letter ballot for the PBC on deleting the requirement for reconsideration ballots except in the case for approval of American National Standards. This proposed change will be noted in the PBC report presented to the INCITS Executive Board in January 2006.

Action:  The PBC report to the January 2006 EB meeting will detail the PBC discussion on the revised text for Sections 5.2.2, 5.2.7, and 5.7.13.2 of the INCITS/RD-2 to remove the requirement for reconsideration ballots except in the case of approval for American National Standards.

5.2 Default Ballots
 

Mr. Barrett stated that this issue will be included on the January 2006 Standards Development Board agenda for discussion.  No further action is requried by the PBC at this time.


6. Future Meetings
None scheduled at this time.


6. Adjournment  

 The sixth meeting of the INCITS Procedures Board Committee was adjourned at 2:43 PM on Monday, December 5, 2005.


Action Items from December 5, 2005 meeting:



Resp.
Action Item

ITI
The PBC requests that the Secretariat to issue a letter ballot to the Executive Board to approve the proposed two-thirds voting text.

ITI PBC requests that the Secretariat issue a letter ballot to revise Sections 5.7.12.1 and 5.7.12.2 of the INCITS/RD-2.

PBC PBC will report to the INCITS Executive Board that the INICTS/M1 internal procedures are in compliance with INCITS and ANSI procedures.

ITI Upon receipt of the revised text from Mr. Zemrowski, PBC requests the Secretariat issue a letter ballot to the Executive Board to approve the new INCITS/RD-2 and INCITS/RD-3 text for US TAG Chairs, IRs and Administrators to provide input to the US delegations to JTC 1 meetings.

ITI
PBC requests that the Secretariat issue a letter ballot on the revised text for Section 3.2.1.1 of the INCITS/RD-2.

PBC PBC will draft text for the INCITS procedures that two concurrent LBs be issued, with the ballot to adopt the international standard contingent on approval of the international standard.

ITI The PBC report to the January 2006 EB meeting will detail the PBC discussion on the revised text for Sections 5.2.2, 5.2.7, and 5.7.13.2 of the INCITS/RD-2 to remove the requirement for reconsideration ballots except in the case of approval for American National Standards.


Previous Action Items (Unresolved)

No.
Resp.
Action Item
a05.173
Action will be taken to get guidance from the PBC (e.g. invited experts to TC for 2 meetings, anything past that requires membership; limit on participation on email lists).  (a05.173 - July 2005 SPB meeting)
a05.167
The PBC is requested to clarify the RD-2 to remove the four voting member requirement for maintenance TCs.  (a05.167 - July 2005 SDB meeting)
a05.137

Due to the confusion over responsibilities in developing JTC 1 level comments on NPs, PBC was instructed to review the SOP for commenting on NPs and to develop procedures for EB consideration.  (a05.137 - July 2005 EB meeting)
a05.040
The PBC was requested to provide text for the RD-2 and RD-3 to clarify the requirement for US TAG Chairs, IRs and Administrators to provide input to the US delegations to JTC 1 meetings.  (Action Item a05.040, January 2005 EB meeting)
a05.002
The PBC is asked to clarify the rights and responsibilities of the various categories of membership for the INCITS Executive Board and the subsidiary boards.  (Action Item a05.002, January 2005 SDB meeting)
Sept04 (6.0)

RD-2 Issue 2 was sent back to PBC to incorporate the concept that US delegates must be representatives of paying members (voting or advisory) of the appropriate US TAG.  (Agenda Item 6, September 2004 Executive Board minutes) - CARRYOVER - undergoing PBC review by email to develop text for EB ballot
Sept04 (3.1.6)

The INCITS/M1 standing document that relates to internal procedures will be submitted for review by the PBC.  (Agenda Item 3.1.6, September 2004 SDB meeting) - CARRYOVER - the M1 SD-3 was forwarded to PBC on September 28, 2004
Jul04 (6.1)

The PBC will prepare RD-2 text to codify the policy that relinquished TAGs and TAG Administrator assignments will revert to INCITS.  (Agenda Item 6.1, July 2004 Executive Board minutes) - CARRYOVER
Apr04 (3.1.9)

The T10 internal procedures detailed in the T10 annual report (in040473) will be submitted to the PBC for review to ensure they are in compliance with the current RD-1 and RD-2.  (Agenda Item 3.1.9, April 2004 SDB minutes) - CARRYOVER - PBC review not yet initiated
Apr04 (7.2)

The PBC was requested to consider the IEEE contribution regarding uniform reporting requirements of JTC 1 Subgroup recommendations on JTC 1 level documents (in040514) and prepare a response for consideration by the Executive Board.  (Agenda Item 7.2, April 2004 EB minutes) - CARRYOVER - updated text developed for possible consideration at the July 2007 Executive Board meeting
Jan04 (9.5.1)

The recommended edits to the INCITS/RD-2 detailed in in040022 will be submitted for consideration by the INCITS Procedures Board Committee (PBC).  (Agenda Item 9.5.1, January 2004 EB minutes) - CARRYOVER - undergoing PBC review by email to develop text for EB ballot