LX/05-0003

Minutes of the Fourth Meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux

INCITS Study Group on Linux
Meeting Number 4
Development of the US Position and Comments on the Linux Standard Base PAS Submission (DIS 23360)

Teleconference Logistics:
Monday,  January 17, 2004
1:00 to 2:00 PM eastern
Dial-in Number:    (703) 788-0600   -   New Number (800) 416-8128
Participant Passcode:        448655#

1. Administrative
1.1 Call to Order (D. Thewlis)
Mr. Thewlis called the meeting to order at 10:10 Pacific Time, noting that he had given additional time to call in because of the change in the call-in number (which was not known until we called in).

1.2 Introduction of New Members and Attendees (D. Thewlis)
Scott Jameson, HP
Mats Wichmann, Intel
Nick Stoughton, Usenix                 
Dave Thewlis, Intel (Convenor)

1.3 Changes in Membership (D. Thewlis)
Mats Wichmann is a new Alternate Member of the ISGL representing Intel.  Microsoft has withdrawn from the ISGL as the ISGL is now doing technical work involving establishing the US position and comments on the LSB PAS rather than dealing with policy issues, noting that Microsoft is not technically involved in the Linux area.

1.4 Approval of Minutes from the Second Meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux - January 16, 2004 (D. Thewlis)
          Reference:  LX/04-0007

         Approved without change.  M-Jameson, S-Thewlis, unanimous approval.
1.5 Approval of Minutes from the Third Meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux - December 3, 2004 (D. Thewlis)
Reference:  LX/04-0023

Approved without change.  M-Stoughton, S-Jameson, unanimous approval.
1.6 Approval of the Draft Agenda for the January 17, 2005 Teleconference (D. Thewlis)

Reference:  LX/05-0002

Approved without change.  M-Jameson, S-Stoughton, unanimous approval.

2. Convener's Remarks
 (D. Thewlis)

        The in-person meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux is confirmed for 24-25 February at ITI Headquarters in Washington D.C.

3.  Status of Activities of the INCITS Study Group on Linux

3.1 Convenor's Report to the INCITS Executive Board (D. Thewlis)
          Reference: LX/05-0001

No comments or suggestions were made about the Convenor's Report.
3.2 Status of Ongoing Development of Organizational Positions and Comments (D. Thewlis)
Mr. Stoughton observed that the LSB working group in the FSG continues to handle defect reports on LSB 2.0.1, the version submitted to JTC 1 as a PAS, and continues to resolve those defects.  In the near future LSB 2.1 will be released.  The number of changes from 2.0.1 are relatively small, but it does address comments that Mr, Stoughton expects will be included in the U.S. position and comments.  In particular stylistic updates have been made to more closely match the ISO style guide, and in some cases of weak normative references the sections have been rewritten to include the information in the base document.  Mr. Stoughton encourages ISGL members when developing their comments to determine if they have been addressed.

Mr. Jameson noted that it would make sense for the FSG to contribute something towards close of ballot period indicating what has been resolved in the updated version of the LSB that may appear in comments, thus allowing one round of ballots and updates, and Mr. Stoughton indicated that this was the intent of the FSG.

Usenix expects that its comments will be on the differences between 2.0.1 and 2.1 which will probably run to 100 or so individual comments.  Both Intel and HP indicated that this was their expectation for their comments as well.

Mr. Stoughton observed that at the Austin Group meeting last week, one agenda item was reviewing the differences between the POSIX standard and the Linux DIS, and the list has been reduced to a small number of manageable groups of problems.  The intent is to move forward to address these, so it is safe to say the intent is to move towards convergence or at least prevent divergence.
         

4. Next Meetings (D. Thewlis)

4.1  The fifth meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will be 28 January, 2005, 1:00 PM Eastern Time, by teleconference.
4.2  The sixth meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will be 7 February, 2005, 1:00 PM Eastern time, by teleconference
4.3  The seventh meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will be  24-25 February, 2005, at ITI, Washington, D.C.
4.4  The eighth meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will be 10-11 March, 2005, at ITI, Washington, D.C. (if needed)

A decision will be taken no later than the 7 February, 2005 conference call as to whether we expect to need the second in-person meeting on 10-11 March 2005.

5. Review of Action Items (D. Thewlis)

1.  Mr. Thewlis will distribute a draft agenda by 24 January for the in-person meeting on 24-25 February.


6. Adjournment                                           
(D. Thewlis)

The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 Pacific time, M-Stoughton, S-Jameson.