LX/05-0006

Draft Minutes

INCITS Study Group on Linux
Meeting Number 5
Development of the US Position and Comments on the Linux Standard Base PAS Submission (DIS 23360)

Teleconference Logistics:
Monday,  January 28, 2005
1:00 to 2:00 PM eastern
Dial-in Number:    913-643-5111
Participant Passcode:     448655#


1. Administrative
1.1 Call to Order (D. Thewlis)
The meeting was called to order at 13:00 Eastern Time by Mr. Thewlis

1.2 Introduction of New Members and Attendees (D. Thewlis)
In attendance:

Wim Coekhaerts, Oracle
Scott Jameson, Hewlett-Packard
Jim Litchfield, Sun Microsystems
Nick Stoughton, USENIX
Dave Thewlis, Intel, Convenor
Mats Wichmann, Intel


1.3 Changes in Membership (D. Thewlis)
None.

1.4 Approval of Minutes from the Fourth Meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux - January 17, 2005 (D. Thewlis)
          Reference:  LX/05-0003. 

The Minutes from the Fourth Meeting of the Study Group were aproved unanimously.  (M/Stoughton; S/Litchfield).

1.5 Approval of the Draft Agenda for the January 28, 2005 Teleconference (D. Thewlis)

Reference:  LX/05-0004

The Agenda was approved unanimously without change.  (M/Stoughton; S/Jameson)


2. Convener's Remarks
(D. Thewlis)

Mr. Thewlis reminded the participants that their draft organizational comments and positions were due by 11 February to give everyone time to familiarize themselves with all of the material prior to our meeting on 24-25 February.  He also advised that people make their hotel reservations soon as many of the hotels in the vicinity of ITI were already booked.


3.  Status of Activities of the INCITS Study Group on Linux


3.1 Feedback from  INCITS EB Meeting January 2005 (if any)
(D. Thewlis
          Reference: 

No feedback has been received.  Mr. Jameson noted that he did not recall any comments on the report at the INCITS EB Meeting.

3.2 Status of Ongoing Development of Organizational Positions and Comments (D. Thewlis)
Mr. Stoughton noted that he has circulated his first draft of LSB editor comments on the LSB core document, but not yet on the architecture
specific documents, to the ISGL reflector on 27 January. Mr Stoughton noted that in a few places the "Proposed change" was too large to be added to the comments template, and proposed using a specially marked up version of the document to highlight all the changes proposed. Mr. Stoughton also noted that FSG used the wrong stylesheet for the LSB 2.0.1 document as submitted to ISO, which has been corrected with 2.1, which results in mechanical comparators finding false "differences". Thus any attached new version of the document would need to be specially marked to remove the false differences and show only the "real" differences.

The group discussed whether such an approach would be appropriate to submit. Mr. Jameson noted that it might not be appropriate as it could be viewed as a "replacement" to the original ISO submission, which could cause substantial confusion. Our job is to register comments not solutions; a more appropriate time for any such document would be as input to the ballot resolution process after the ballot closes.

The group believed that the most important comment to note was that it was aware that the FSG had further developed the specification since submittal, and would disapprove of any divergence between the formally approved ISO IS 23360 and the FSG document.

Wim noted that Oracle was still in the process of reviewing the DIS but expected to meet the 11 February deadline.



4. Next Meetings (D. Thewlis)

4.1  The sixth meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will be 7 February, 2005, 1:00 PM Eastern time, by teleconference
4.2  The seventh meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will be  24-25 February, 2005, at ITI, Washington, D.C.
4.3  The eigth meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will be 10-11 March, 2005, at ITI, Washington, D.C. (if needed)



5. Review of Action Items (D. Thewlis)

No action items were assigned.



6. Adjournment                                           
(D. Thewlis)

The meeting was adjourned at 13:30 Eastern time.  (M/Litchfield; S/Stoughton)