LX/05-0016
Draft Minutes
INCITS Study Group on Linux
Meeting Number 7
Development of the US Position and Comments on the Linux Standard Base
PAS Submission (DIS 23360)
February 24-25, 2005
Information Technology Industry Council
(ITI)
1250 Eye Street, NW
Suite 200
Washington, DC 20005
Telephone: (202) 737-8888
Fax: (202)
638-4922
Thursday
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February 24, 2005 |
10:00 AM - 5:00 PM |
| Friday |
February 25, 2005 |
9:00 AM - 3:00 PM |
| 1.1 Call to Order |
(D. Thewlis) |
Mr. Thewlis called the meeting to order at 10:00 Eastern Standard
Time on 24 February 2005.
| 1.2 Introduction of New Members and Attendees |
(D. Thewlis)
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Members in Attendance:
Karen Higginbottom (Hewlett Packard)
Theodore Ts'o (IBM)
David Thewlis (Intel)
Don Cragun (Sun)
Nick Stoughton (USENIX)
Members Absent (Oracle)
| 1.3 Changes in Membership |
(D. Thewlis)
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Reference:
LX/05-0012 (Termination of Sony Electronics Membership), LX/05-0013 (Termination
of Department of Defense Membership),
LX/05-0014 (IBM in jeopardy due to missing two consecutive
meetings)
The memberships of Sony Electronics and the Department of Defense in the
INCITS Study Group on Linux were terminated after the February 7, 2005 meeting
due to failure to participate. IBM was notified that its membership
was in jeopardy due to a failure to attend two consecutive meetings.
IBM was present at this meeting so the jeopardy notice is no longer relevant.
The membership of the INCITS Study Group on Linux now stands
at six: HP, IBM, Intel, Oracle, Sun, USENIX.
| 1.4 Approval of Minutes from the Sixth Meeting
of the INCITS Study Group on Linux - February 7, 2005 |
(D. Thewlis)
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Reference: LX05-0011
The minutes of the
Sixth Meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux were approved unanimously.
M/Thewlis, S/Higginbottom.
| 1.5 Approval of the Final Agenda for the February
24-25 Meeting |
(D. Thewlis) |
Reference: LX/05-0015
The Agenda for the Seventh Meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux
was adopted unanimously without change.
M/Stoughton, S/Cragun.
2. Convener's Remarks
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(D. Thewlis)
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3. Establishment of Recommended U.S. Positions
and Comments
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| 3.1 Review of Member Comments and Organizational
Positions |
(D. Thewlis)
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Reference: "Consolidated Comments
on DIS 22360", "Sun LSB Comments.pdf", "USENIX LSB_ISO_Comments.doc"
For members' convenience, "Consolidated Comments
on DIS 22360" contains the text of all comments posted to the INCITS SGL
Reflector as e-mail text. "Sun LSB COmments.pdf" and "USENIX LSB_ISO_Comments.doc"
were circulated to the Reflector as attachments to e-mails. These three
documents were recirculated to the mailing list via a single e-mail on 16
February 2005 by Mr. Thewlis, the Convenor. As these are draft positions
and comments, it was not deemed appropriate to post them to the INCITS SGL
Document Register as open documents.
Reviewed Sun comments. Sun still opposes. Usenix and IBM support,
so does HP and Intel.
Should be a definite entry in US comments to document how to support multiple
versions/releases (betterdescribed). Bring out more in formal description
that it is possible, and have less formal How To document on website.
Non-normative appendix. Need detailed plan for addressing differences
between Posix and Linux (as defined in Andrew's differences document).
Reviewed and modified Usenix comments.
3.2 Action:
Establishment of Recommended U.S. Position and Comments on LSB PAS
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(D. Thewlis)
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As noted in LX/04-0024 (IN/04-1417):
The
committee is to coordinate and develop the U.S. recommended position to INCITS
EB for approval for submission to ISO/IEC JTC 1. The position must be submitted
in a format consistent with the guidelines specified by the JTC 1 Secretariat
in JTC 1 N 5348.
The
position options are: approve; approve with general, technical and/or editorial
comments; disapprove for reasons which are to be explained in an attached
paper with recommended wording which, if accepted, would change the U.S.
vote to one of approval, or abstain.
IMPORTANT
The committee should return the U.S. recommendation
to the INCITS Secretariat for approval by a 30-day
letter ballot no later than March 15,
2005 so that,
if necessary, a 10-day reconsideration ballot may be conducted and the U.S.
vote forwarded to ANSI by to the JTC 1 closing date of May 10, 2005.
3.2.1 Development
of recommended comments for U.S. Position
The final set of recommended comments to accompany the
recommendation to the INCITS Executive Board were developed.
3.2.2 Establishment
of Recommended U.S. Position and Comments.
The INCITS Study Group on Linux recommends
to the INCITS Executive Board that the United States vote to approve the
PAS Submission on DIS 23360 with comments as developed by the INCITS SGL
and submitted with this recommendation.
M/Stoughton, S/Cragun.
Role call vote, all members present voted YES. Final tally:
5,0,0,1 (Oracle was not present)
Motion carried unanimously and satisfies the requirements for a 2/3 vote.
3.3 Action: Establishment of Recommendation
on Adoption of DIS 22360 as U.S. National Standard
As noted in LX/04-0024 (IN/04-1417).
The study group should
notify the INCITS
Secretariat if this standard is unsuitable for adoption as an American National
Standard. A vote
of majority approval accompanied by comments specifying the reasons for non-adoption
is required. The recommendation for non-adoption should be sent simultaneously
with the recommendation to INCITS EB. The INCITS Secretariat will adopt the
ISO/IEC Standard unless notified, see INCITS Adoption Policy. The initiation for adoption
will begin upon publication of the resulting standard.
3.3.1 Establishment
of Recommendation on Adoption of DIS 22360 as a U.S. National Standard
Mr. Thewlis noted that the specific requirement
was that the Study Group should notify the INCITS Secretariat if the standard
was unsuitable for adoption
as an American National Standard. Discussion in the study group determined
that the standard was suitable. Therefore the Chair ruled that no recommendation
on this issue need be made to the INCITS Secretariat.
| 4. Next Meetings |
(D. Thewlis)
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4.1 Eighth Meeting of the INCITS Study Group on
Linux
4.1.1 As there is no requirement
for another in-person meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux at this
time, the tentative 10-11 March Meeting
at ITI has been
canceled.
4.1.2 The eighth meeting of the INCITS Study Group on Linux will
be held
by teleconference
on
23 May 2005 at 1300 Eastern Time.
This meeting will conduct an initial review
of ballot responses and comments on the PAS Ballot on DIS 23360, and
determine how the INCITS SGL will examine these materials and develop US
positions on them. The meeting will also establish the U.S. Delegation
to the Ballot Resolution Meeting if possible.
If the ballot responses and comments have not been distributed prior to
23 May, the Convenor is directed to postpone this meeting until they have
been made available by the SC 22 Secretariat.
4.2 Consideration of potential delegation to a Ballot
Resolution Meeting on the LSG PAS
HP, IBM, Intel and possibly USENIX expect
to participate in the US Delegation at this time. Mr. Thewlis expects
to be Head of Delegation. Mr. Stoughton noted that he would be at
the meeting in the capacity of Project Editor and would not be part
of the U.S. Delegation.
| 5. Review of Action Items |
(D. Thewlis)
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5.1 Mr.Thewlis will submit the final recommended U.S. position
and comments to the INCITS Executive Board.
5.2 Mr. Thewlis will submit his report to the April INCITS
Executive Board meeting.
5.2 Mr. Thewlis will reschedule the 23 May conference call
if the SC22 Secretariat has not distributed the final results of the PAS Ballot
on DIS 23360
before 20 May.
6. Adjournment
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(D. Thewlis)
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The meeting was adjourned at 17:30 Eastern Time on
24 February 2005 (M/Stoughton).